
Anybody who knows me knows that I try to do all of my portraits using natural lighting and reflectors if necessary.....Yesturday I got in my super small studio and practiced with them on Kinley......And then I remembered why I dont like to use them....I CANT FIGURE THEM OUT!..... I think I did OK, but before they were perfect, I gave up...Natural lighting is much easier for me to work with. And if I dont get it right...............Thats OK!